The Talk Show

The Talk Show

Published by: 5by5
90 Episodes | First Released: Jul 28 '10
The Talk Show features discussion about technology, Apple, Mac, iPhone, iPad, movies, directors, and the Web. It’s America’s favorite podcast. Hosted by John Gruber & Dan Benjamin.
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white_orpheus
Jan 7 '15
Rating:   10
Who doesn't like this podcast?

Great job Gruber!

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Werthy Adventures
Jan 29 '14
Rating:   10
Fantastic

Thank you :)

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IGITI
Jan 22 '13
Rating:   10
Would you just once

Drink some coffee before the show?

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Marco1959
Jul 15 '12
Rating:   4
Love the blog. The podcast? Not so much.

The Talk Show fails exactly where the blog succeeds: brevity and spot-on analysis. Having been a (paying) fan of the blog for years, I thought it was time to give the podcast a shot. I was surprised it clocked in at nearly two hours. Within 15 minutes of starting, I found out why: Gruber and the guest just chatted/prattled on about whatever happened to be on their minds: baseball, basketball, random tech topics. The podcast plays as thought a couple of geeks are getting together for coffee and someone left a microphone on by mistake. If I want to listen to nerds ramble for a while, I can just call a couple of buddies and go get a beer. Again, the podcase needs a big dose of what the blog has: brevity and analysis. Shrink it to 15 minutes with the same amount of content.

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r.c.cola123
Jun 9 '12
Rating:   10
Gruber is God.

11/10

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cecinestpas
Jun 3 '12
Rating:   4
Interesting approach, flawed execution

Two smart guys chatting in free form. Meh.Both John Gruber and Dan Benjamin made their names with tech blogs featuring careful analysis, unique insights, and wit. Their voices are different, but complimentary, and so the chance to hear them in conversation--without regular segments or features to constrain them--seemed like the ideal format. It could be a place to work out the sort of ideas that appear in more refined form on Daring Fireball and Hivelogic (their respective websites). Right? In practice, though it turns out to be a mess.Those moments that are interesting devolve into Gruber hiccuping "I don't know, I don't know, I don't know" as a tick. (It's like he's playing coy, trying to draw Benjamin in to beg that he share his genius with the rest of us.) Or both of them discussing their favorite sports teams and why they think Kubrick is so cool. Their most recent thing is ending each episode with discussion of a James Bond film. Ugh. At least they put it at the end, so I can cut out early; the rest you have to wade through. (NB: I'm not one of these folks saying they can't talk about non-tech things--of course they can . . . I don't even think DF or HL has to be all-tech all the time. It's just that I don't care about their opinions in these other matters. And when I see a post on something I'm not interested in, I can skip it. In contrast, when you suddenly find yourself in the middle of a 20-minute segment of uninformed chatter about the Beatles, what recourse to you have? Unsubscribe, I guess.)What they need is a producer or a director or at an editor. Some outside voice to shape the conversation a bit, or at least polish the end result.Without that, though, too often halfway through one of these I find myself thinking, "Why am I still listening to this? What am I doing with my life? I hate myself. Why can't I be more productive like my brother?" Maybe that's my own issue. OMG, I just had a breakthrough! That's why I can never hold down a sustained relation. Sorry, gotta run--gotta go call my shrink.

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jimdauer
May 24 '12
Rating:   8
Good Banter

I really enjoy John's perspective.

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avocadetest
May 23 '12
Rating:   10
Staple

A staple of the podcasting world.

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indil
May 23 '12
Rating:   6
John Gruber drags this one down

Sometimes the topics are interesting, sometimes not. It depends on the news that week. There is barely any structure to it. Dan Benjamin literally just calls up John Gruber and records his efforts to get him to talk. It seems at times that John couldn't care less, and other times when his pet topics come up (like James Bond or Kubrick), he lights up briefly. A lot of the time John mumbles and sounds disinterested. Sometimes he chews food or drinks audibly and doesn't seem to care. It's unprofessional, and must be frustrating to Dan. Dan is bubbly and excited, but this seems to be lost on John. There just isn't much chemistry there to enjoy. Dan's jokes and attempts to coax John out of his shell often fall flat with awkward silences. John often comes off as arrogant or rude, sometimes speaking over Dan about some random thing that just popped into his mind, as if he didn't hear him talking. It's just unpleasant, despite Dan's best efforts. It wasn't my favorite 5by5 podcast, and I have no intention of following the show after John took the show to another network. The episodes are usually too long for the amount of interesting content, sometimes two hours. At some point, I realized life is too short.Dan is a great host, and other 5by5 podcasts are much better. See Hypercritical and Build & Analyze.

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mentholiptus
May 22 '12
Rating:   10
This act was solid gold...

…until the frontman went solo.Looking forward to a reunion.

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